[SoX-users] [ANNOUNCE] public-inbox.org mirrors of sox-devel and sox-users

[Eric Wong]

For those of you unable to remain subscribed to SF.net,
I am putting JavaScript-free mirrors on public-inbox.org:

https://public-inbox.org/sox-users/
https://public-inbox.org/sox-devel/

NNTP readers may use:

nntp://news.public-inbox.org/inbox.comp.audio.sox
nntp://news.public-inbox.org/inbox.comp.audio.sox.devel

You can also "git clone --mirror" those URLs and periodically
run "git fetch" to update them.

You can also do a read-only subscription via mlmmj using:

sox-users+***@public-inbox.org
sox-devel+***@public-inbox.org

This will enable you to read messages posted to the
associated address @lists.sourceforge.net, but not post...

I'm not sure how to enable posting via public-inbox.org
addresses. I suppose I can throw together some Perl and
forward posts to SF.net using my personal address, with
correct attribution...

All the code for public-inbox is available under AGPL-3.0+:
git clone https://public-inbox.org/public-inbox

[Jan Stary]

Post by Eric Wong
For those of you unable to remain subscribed to SF.net,
https://public-inbox.org/sox-users/
https://public-inbox.org/sox-devel/

Let me understand this: beng subscribed to the mailing list means
I get the messages via email. What Java-Script problem problem are
we trying to solve here? Is it the fact that the archive web page
https://sourceforge.net/p/sox/mailman/sox-devel/
using javascript. Is that the problem?

Post by Eric Wong
This will enable you to read messages posted to the

What good is a maling list I cannot post to?

Post by Eric Wong
I'm not sure how to enable posting via public-inbox.org
addresses. I suppose I can throw together some Perl and
forward posts to SF.net using my personal address, with
correct attribution...

Please don't. Let there be _one_ place for the actual mailing list to exist
(be it SF ore anything else); there are plenty of archove sites indexing
the SoX lists already, e.g.

http://marc.info/?l=sox-users&r=1&w=2
http://marc.info/?l=sox-devel&r=1&w=2

Jan

[Jan Stary]

Post by Jan Stary

Post by Eric Wong
This will enable you to read messages posted to the
I'm not sure how to enable posting via public-inbox.org
addresses. I suppose I can throw together some Perl and
forward posts to SF.net using my personal address, with
correct attribution...

Please don't. Let there be _one_ place for the actual mailing list to exist
(be it SF ore anything else); there are plenty of archove sites indexing
the SoX lists already.

Besides, the https://public-inbox.org/sox-users/ interface is horrendous.
For example, this is where a recent "split stereo by channel and silence"
subject line links to:

https://public-inbox.org/sox-users/CAMCaP0ESksGVf7C8K+ei1963+***@mail.gmail.com/T/#t

That gets me to the very bottom on the page; it is completely unrelated
to the position of the actual message on the page.

Jan

[Eric Wong]

Post by Jan Stary
Besides, the https://public-inbox.org/sox-users/ interface is horrendous.
For example, this is where a recent "split stereo by channel and silence"
That gets me to the very bottom on the page; it is completely unrelated
to the position of the actual message on the page.

It links to the index of messages in the thread, so it's easier
to jump again on the same page to a certain message.

Anyways, UI is a personal thing (I can't stand most of the
modern web, either)

The point is the code and data are both cloneable via git; so
all that is customizable. It's more efficient than updating via
NNTP, even.

[Doug Lee]

Got a flood of mail from various places today and yesterday; haven't managed a thorough read of this thread; but my two cents:

I'm fine moving the list to another mailing-list site. I'm ok if that site has a web interface. But I will want to stick to email as a means of reading and posting, rather than dealing with a web interface for either.

Post by Jan Stary
Besides, the https://public-inbox.org/sox-users/ interface is horrendous.
For example, this is where a recent "split stereo by channel and silence"
That gets me to the very bottom on the page; it is completely unrelated
to the position of the actual message on the page.

It links to the index of messages in the thread, so it's easier
to jump again on the same page to a certain message.

Anyways, UI is a personal thing (I can't stand most of the
modern web, either)

The point is the code and data are both cloneable via git; so
all that is customizable. It's more efficient than updating via
NNTP, even.

[Eric Wong]

Post by Jan Stary

Post by Eric Wong
For those of you unable to remain subscribed to SF.net,
https://public-inbox.org/sox-users/
https://public-inbox.org/sox-devel/

Let me understand this: beng subscribed to the mailing list means
I get the messages via email. What Java-Script problem problem are
we trying to solve here? Is it the fact that the archive web page
https://sourceforge.net/p/sox/mailman/sox-devel/
using javascript. Is that the problem?

The problem is SourceForge is requiring users reconfirm existing
subscriptions, and that reconfirmation requires JS and CAPTCHA.

Post by Jan Stary

Post by Eric Wong
This will enable you to read messages posted to the

What good is a maling list I cannot post to?

I still find reading archives useful. Sorry for the old message
bounces, though, I misconfigured mlmmj and did not fix it
quickly, enough.

Post by Jan Stary

Post by Eric Wong
I'm not sure how to enable posting via public-inbox.org
addresses. I suppose I can throw together some Perl and
forward posts to SF.net using my personal address, with
correct attribution...

Please don't. Let there be _one_ place for the actual mailing list to exist
(be it SF ore anything else); there are plenty of archove sites indexing
the SoX lists already, e.g.
http://marc.info/?l=sox-users&r=1&w=2
http://marc.info/?l=sox-devel&r=1&w=2

Those links will likely stop updating unless marc.info reconfirm
all their subscriptions (and every other SF list).

[James Cloos]

JS> What Java-Script problem problem are we trying to solve here?

To stay subscribed one has to follow sf's url to a re-confirm page which
only works w/ js.

It looks like all sf subscription additions and removals will requier
such nonsense now.

-JimC

[Jan Stary]

Post by James Cloos
JS> What Java-Script problem problem are we trying to solve here?
To stay subscribed one has to follow sf's url to a re-confirm page which
only works w/ js.

And?